From: George Zay, Descanso, CA Date: Nov. 17, 1997 Observing from the abandoned gold mines of Ogilby, Calif. My Leonid Observation for Nov 16/17, 1997 George Zay Okay...I left last night around 5pm for my Descanso, Ca. observatory. After arriving, I noticed a lot of clouds in the area and decided to pack things up and head for an area near Yuma, Arizona...Ogilby. It was nearly a 3 hour drive. At Ogilby I found a nice wide open area...but I had lots of clouds over me there also. At about 9:30 pm, I decided to nap for a couple of hours and see what the sky looks like when I awake. At 11:30 pm the sky was completely clear. Still a bit groggy from my nap, I proceeded to set things up. I usually get thoroughly clear headed by the time I start my watch. I was hoping to wake up gradually...but it became a sudden event when I slamed the car door on my thumb. So...with a sore black and blue thumb nail, I began my 1997 Leonid campaign with a bang. The moon made things quite brite. My average Limiting Magnitude was around 4.7 for the entire night. I faced North and Northeast most of the night. I was able to observe for 5.5 Teff hours. Despite the low LM, activity started immediately it seemed. By nites end, I recorded a total of 105 meteors. Of which 92 were Leonids. I didn't notice any given moment as to having a sudden burst of activity...rather it seemed relatively steady and increased with the rising radiant. But my rates for a low LM were higher compared to last years efforts under darker skies. So...Leonid activity is apparently still on the rise. There were numerous bright meteors observed. The brightest were the following fireballs: -9, -8, -6, -6, -5, -4, -4, -4, -3, -3. The brilliant white -8 had a 30 second train. Both it and the Blue -9 were kinda low in the North. The -9 hugged the horizon and had only an 8 second train. If Robert Lunsford and Peter Brown saw them, they should have been a spectacular sight if they found some clear skies. I'm still assuming that they were somewhere North of me...but I don't know where they ended up at. It's possible they could have been just around the next hill? I didn't see anyone else observing...heck...I didn't see anyone else at all! In addition to the above mentioned fireballs, I also recorded seven -2 magnitude Leonids. The relatively dim meteors weren't apparent...but this could have been due to the bright moon. Only got about a Bakers dozen of Leonids that were +3 or +4 in magnitude. Last year they seemed quite bright also. I observed until 5:24 am PST...no apparent sign of any sudden Leonid increase as dawn over ran the show. My complete report will be done later and sent off to IMO. This should give everyone an idea how it went for me. I hope everyone else faired well? With this observation, I might have reached 200 Teff hours for the year...if not, I'm shy a few minutes or so?