From: Kearn Jones, Adelaide, Australia Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:38:23 +1030 Went out (solo) to dark site near 34.5 south 139 east (400 mtrs) to hopefully view LEO's - only saw total of 5 LEO's in over two hours of teff - but saw high activity from small area of the southern milky way as i was looking high N/E for LEO's - at first i thought it was just usual sporadics but when a couple of them again caught my eye, i turned to look and i was looking at an asterism which i thought for a second was Musca, but quickly realised it wasnt right. While i was looking at this asterism, right in the centre, i saw what appeared to be a 1.5 sec lasting +2 supernova which left no star in its place! But of course it must of been a head on meteor (Point meteor?) i continued to get most of meteors of the night roughly from this area, even though i was centred NE. Upon reflection after i got home, i thought to check for a shower from this area. i came up with the possibility that they were Puppid/Velids. The Musca like asterism i think it was seems to be centred around 08hr 45 min -45 with lambda Vela on the top corner of asterism, from my view. I will check it out at the same time tomorrow if possible, to see if i am correct about the asterism and its position. I read that the 10 degree diameter radiant of the Puppid/Velids is around 08 hr 12 min - 45 . Active from dec 1st - dec 15th with max activity on 7 th dec with a ZHR of 10. These are the ones that crossed into my high NE centred view, from my right 1:50 am - 2:17 am 4 possible Puppid/Velids (ACDST 20th nov) 15% cloud cover 2:30 am - 3:00 am 5 possible Puppid/Velids 15% cloud cover 3:01 am - 3:31 am 5 possible Puppid/Velids 40% cloud cover 1:50 am 20th Nov ACDST = 15:20 19th nov 03 UT They were white in colour and around the +2 to +3 in mag , swiftish but medium long, some travelled about 50* - 60* heading north and north west mostly, no trains. ZLM was around 6.5 at these times (high thin cirrus again) and 5.5 at horizon. There were a few more meteors from this area outside of these times, but these are the ones i wrote down. Come to think of it, all these 6 and half years we have going out to see the big - ( mostly north favouring - but hey! we get the centre of our galaxy at zenith mid winter, the mage's, and Q4 and T7 next year ect., so im not complaining too much :-) ) - "Blockbuster" meteor showers there has often been a lot of activity from southern areas, but we only looked at them as a side entertainment and marked them down as sporadics usually. Some of them certainly could of been shower members - will have to start taking them more seriously. Will write leonid report later : best leonid was -5 smoking earthgrazer that headed west over the horizon - at least 75* degree path- at around 3:15 am acdst 16:45 19th UT