From: J. K. Snospam, Silicon Valley, Northern California Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 19:45:17 -0500 (EST) Despite predictions of poor weather in our area, the sky was quite clear and the air pleasently warm (ah, California) for Leonid observing in the early morning of Nov 17. My 9 year old daughter and I got up at 3 am pst, settled into a comfy lounge chair and watched the show unfold. We counted off 31 meteors in the 45 minute period from 3:15 am pst to 4:00 am pst. Then from 4:15 am pst to 4:45 am pst I counted off another 10 with the last one being a very bright green one with a nice burst of brightness at the end. Most that we saw seemed to be originating (radiating) from Leo. Many of them were quite bright (fireballs?) and some has trails persisting for 2-10 seconds (sorry we're not (yet) an experienced observing team). Though the sky was quite clear, I estimate the limiting visual magnitude to be only 4.1 (due to the light pollution from San Jose to the south east of us). Very, very cool .. and wonderful to have shared w/ my daughter.